Ransomware negotiation(s) with
revil
In the ransom note, you stated that you took 500 GB of information, can you provide us examples of this information
2 days ago
Hello.
If you are satisfied with the screenshots of the folders, we will provide them to you within a few minutes.
Or we can provide you with a link to some of your data for review. But it will take about an hour.
2 days ago
we will take both
2 days ago
Good. 10 minutes and we will provide you with screenshots.
2 days ago
Thank you. we will wait for file samples as well
2 days ago
We would like to draw your attention to the fact that we did not delete
data from your ESXI servers. The information is also encrypted there.
If we make a deal, we will give you a decryptor so that you can restore
the servers.
2 days ago
But we do not guarantee recovery if you carry out any manipulations with these servers.
2 days ago
Good. This also applies to other files outside of ESXI.
2 days ago
please send the sample files when ready
2 days ago
We have started transferring some of the data to the new server so that
you can familiarize yourself with the data. It will take some time. In 5
minutes you will be able to get acquainted with what we have already
transferred for you.
2 days ago
We will upload files here for review.
The link is available through the TOR browser.
Some of the data is still in the process of being copied.
2 days ago
We've finished copying the sample data for you.
Can you please tell me, are you only interested in data files or are you also interested in the decryptor?
As we already wrote before, we strongly discourage using third-party solutions.
2 days ago
3rd party solutions? Is there different pricing for breaking it apart?
2 days ago
3rd party solutions - Various programs, the descriptions of which say
that they can recover data, but this is not the case. Typically, the use
of such third-party programs leads to the fact that our decryptor can
no longer recover your data.
2 days ago
If you are ready to move on to the deal in the near future, then we can
provide you with a discount. If you do not need a decryptor, then the
discount will be slightly higher.
2 days ago
I understand now on the 3rd party solutions. thank you
2 days ago
Thank you for providing the details. I am discussing with the board
2 days ago
Good. We will be in touch.
2 days ago
Our board is having issues with the quantifying the 500 GB that has
been taken. To help them out, is there a certain IP or something I can
hunt for to quantify this on the exfil side. Based on this, then the
board should be in a position to discuss options.
1 day ago
Do I understand correctly that you do not need a decryptor?
1 day ago
That is incorrect. We are still understanding the damage caused to the organization.
1 day ago
This is just business, it makes no sense for us to lie or not fulfill
obligations. If we do business this way, there will be no profit for us.
In fact, you question is very strange - we think that the provided data
is already enough to understand the seriousness of your problem. it's
all about your reputation and possible damage to your customers.
We have been in your network for more than 2 weeks and we think you
understand that there was enough time to download even more information.
You can also read about REvil on the Internet and find out that 500
gigabytes is a small leak, since sometimes several terabytes of data are
downloaded.
And also you will find out that if we can't reach the agreemnt, then we will have to publish some of the data in our blog.
You should also know that in 5 days the amount will be doubled.
1 day ago
Thank you for this as providing this explanation
1 day ago
We have performed the research that you requested. In addition, we have
studied ransom payments from various third party sources. The board is
asking for you to consider $800K for the package to gain consensus. Can
we agree to this amount?
1 day ago
Do you want us to give you a discount of more than 90%? Of course this is impossible.
I will give you a small example. The company is close to your profile,
the annual turnover was 2.5 times less, as well as we had 2 times less
data and we have already published some of the data in the blog - as a
result, this company paid 4 million.
They also did not need a decryptor - they were able to recover from the backups that we missed.
Next comes simple math.
What you read is either small companies or information with understated
amounts. Most companies do not advertise the fact of hacking and
payment.
1 day ago
Apparently you do not realize the seriousness of the situation and the consequences.
Loss of reputation
Loss of clients and possible litigation with them.
Financial losses due to downtime that can take a very long time.
Your data will also be seen by your competitors
The stocks in the market will begin to fall, and this is clearly not to your investors' liking.
And much more.
You are a big, serious company - be realistic.
1 day ago
If you are ready to seriously discuss the deal in the near future, then we will be ready to slightly reduce the amount.
If your new proposal is again frivolous, we will have to prepare a blog post with the first part of the data.
1 day ago
We want to seriously discuss this and as you said, this is a business
deal so please give me something to work with and I will discuss with
the board and come back to you.
1 day ago
if we work together I am sure we can gain consensus
1 day ago
here is one article as part of our research
https://www.tripwire.com/state-of-security/security-data-protection/increase-in-ransomware-demand-amounts-driven-by-ryuk-sodinokibi
1 day ago
again we want to gain consensus
1 day ago
I recommend that you do not trust such reports.
We don't know what information the Coveware report was based on.
How many companies are using Coveware?
What is the size of the company and what is their revenue?
Was there a data leak?
Or was the company able to recover on its own and the company was interested only in non-disclosure?
Company profiles?
And much more.
We also recommend that you be extremely careful when contacting a company like Coveware.
As practice shows, the task of such companies is to make money on the client's problem. Most often they use payment per hour.
Therefore, they usually start to play for time during negotiations and thereby pull money from the client.
They won't care about your data. And if the deal does not take place,
then the data is published and companies like Coveware will do it anyway
for this fact - they will still make money.
They are often too confident that we will agree to any amount and will
not publish the data, but you can take a look at our blog and see how
many companies they faked in this way.
It is also a frequent case when we publish the first part of the data -
companies immediately go to the deal, understanding how serious
everything is.
Returning to the topic of statistics of payments and amounts - as you
understand, the companies that ignite do not want publicity, so you
rarely see news that the company paid 5-10-15-20 million. But this
happens.
Here is a public example for you, to which we have nothing to do, but I think the meaning will be clear:
https://www.wired.com/story/garmin-ransomware-hack-warning/
This is a public event. The company did not want to pay, after which
part of its data was published and as far as I know - after that the
company quickly agreed to the deal.
I could provide private evidence of other multi-million dollar deals, but of course I won't.
We do business with integrity. All the more would you like it if in the
future we would tell other companies about your case? If we come to a
deal, no one will know about it, otherwise you will be another example
for our other companies.
As for the amount.
I think you perfectly understand that you will incur large financial
losses. You are already losing money and I don’t think you want it to
continue like this. And now we are only talking about easy to work with.
But do you understand that there will be other losses?
Clients will find out about what happened to you and find out that their
data has been published, including confidential. Including problems
with their projects. I think it is not easy for them not to want to
continue working with you, and they will also sue you. And probably it
will also go about millions of claims.
So what happens if competitors take advantage of the data we can publish?
How will investors react to this?
Believe me, there is enough data for the company to incur more serious losses and they will exceed the amount requested from us.
We are not the first day in this business and we can conditionally
calculate how much the company can and will be willing to pay. As well
as possible losses of the company. Therefore, we offer an adequate
amount and it does not include the discount that we can offer if the
company conducts a correct and serious conversation, and is also ready
to conduct a deal up to double the amount and publish the first part of
the data.
We are still waiting for a serious offer from you. Keep in mind that
tomorrow we will be preparing the first publication for our blog
regarding your company - we are going to publish it on Friday if we do
not come to an agreement. The blog is followed by many media and as soon
as a new entry appears there, after a few hours it appears on many news
portals.
1 day ago
A link to our blog where you can check out the leaks of other companies that didn’t make the deal:
http://dnpscnbaix6nkwvystl3yxglz7nteicqrou3t75tpcc5532cztc46qyd.onion
I also recommend that you familiarize yourself with this material in order to avoid mistakes:
http://dnpscnbaix6nkwvystl3yxglz7nteicqrou3t75tpcc5532cztc46qyd.onion/posts/[redacted]
1 day ago
Thank you for providing this and I will discuss with the board
19 hours ago
As we are chatting in good faith, we would like to keep our
conversations private. Can we setup a private chat as others might be
viewing our conversation
16 hours ago
The ransom note was uploaded to VT; therefore, I am concerned someone
could download and monitor. I am authorized to negotiate for the
company.
15 hours ago
[redacted]@gmail.com
15 hours ago
We will not be able to link the gmail account with the your company.
LinkedIn account or Facebook of an employee or company?
Phone call?
After you provide us with a contact for communication, we will remove it from our correspondence so that no one can see it
15 hours ago
We removed from the chat all the message where the name of your company
was mentioned, as well as screenshots of the data, by which it was
possible to determine which company could be discussed. We are waiting
for your contact information to switch to another chat.
15 hours ago
I am stepping into a board meeting and will get the information you desire for verification.
15 hours ago
the phone will not work as those are down due to your encryptor
13 hours ago
Okay. Let us carry out verification via Facebook or LinkedIn.
13 hours ago
We can provide you with a new private chat without verification, but if
we are confused by the correspondence in it, we will return to the main
chat, where we are currently communicating.
13 hours ago
Let me know as soon as you are ready to receive a password and instructions.
After that, write to us in a new chat and we will remove the password and instructions from the main chat.
13 hours ago
Here is our proposal to link to the gmail account. we noticed that you
used the [redacted] account to pivot in the network. Is this verification
enough to send this to the gmail account
13 hours ago
Yes, that will be enough.
13 hours ago
did you receive instructions and password?
13 hours ago
I entered in the password
13 hours ago
Please destroy the other chat support
13 hours ago
and we will do our conversation here
13 hours ago
please confirm when complete
13 hours ago
Why do we need this? We have removed all information that could help someone identify your company name.
13 hours ago
the proofs are still in the chat window
13 hours ago
apologies for the extra steps as we gain consensus
13 hours ago
Write to me where the evidence is left and I will delete it.
13 hours ago
I see screenshots. I removed them.
13 hours ago
kill the onion link
13 hours ago
to the directory
13 hours ago
I think we can start discussing the deal.
12 hours ago
The board is still reviewing the information you provided and contemplating an offer back
12 hours ago
Good. We are in touch.
12 hours ago
How are things going into the negotiation of the deal? Your time is
coming to an end. If by tomorrow we do not agree on a deal, we will
publish the first post on our blog. And also discounts will cease to be
relevant. And we will already be discussing the next discount from the
doubled amount, and as you understand, the amount in the end will be
more than 9 million.
8 hours ago
You ask for a lot in a short period as many people are discussing
options. Being your advocate and to gain consensus, you should realize
that this takes time and to post early does not help this business deal.
As the board is considering options, do you have a new number so I can
take to them board.
8 hours ago
We all perfectly understand, but there are certain algorithms and
deadlines in our work, which have proven their effectiveness more than
once.
7 hours ago
"As the board is considering options, do you have a new number so I can
take to them board." - what number are we talking about?
7 hours ago
The amount for the package. You ask for $9M. I trust to gain consensus the discounts to which you speak of can be factored in
7 hours ago
If in the near future we come to an agreement, then I think we will be able to provide a discount of 10-15%.
7 hours ago
But we will discuss the discount specifically when we receive an offer
from the company. We do not recommend offering understated amounts - you
must be realistic. Otherwise, as practice shows, negotiations are
delayed, which leads to publications and an increase in the amount.
7 hours ago
As your advocate, I understand your position. A few questions from the board
1) the data you have taken - how do we receive it back
2) do you explain how you took the data and got into our company
3) what guarantees do you provide that you will not attack us again
4) what assurance do we receive that the data does not leak in 6 months from now (how do we know that you destroyed it)
7 hours ago
5) what if the decryption key does not work - do you provide some type of support
7 hours ago
1) You can recover this data using the decryptor anyway. But if required, we will provide you with a link to all your data.
2) Yes, we will provide you with information on how we got into the company's network and how we got access to all the data.
3) We don't do that kind of thing. This will ruin our reputation. We
will give you recommendations on how to avoid repeated intrusion (from
other teams).
4) Why will we not save them - why waste resources on this? As soon as
we receive payment, we will delete the data from all backup servers and
it will remain on only one server so that you can download it if you
need it. Then we will remove them from there.
This is a business. If we leak, we will ruin our reputation and other companies will not pay us.
5) Our software is time-tested. This will not happen if you have not tried to restore data using third-party software.
7 hours ago
Thank you for this. I will provide to the board. I do not know what
time zone you are in, but i suspect the board will provide me guidance
in the AM. I do not know if you take a rest in your business
7 hours ago
Good. We will be in touch.
7 hours ago
This information is provided by Valéry Marchive & Julien Mousqueton